[Opendnssec-user] rollover started automatically when ManualRollover set
Hoda Rohani
hoda at nlnetlabs.nl
Mon Jul 24 11:46:22 UTC 2017
Hi Emil,
I guess now decreasing the value 'Purge' in kasp will resolve the issue. Ods waits for Purge time before removing the
key. It seems that your key is now in this state.
Hope that works for you.
Regards,
Hoda
On 24-07-17 13:29, Emil Natan wrote:
> Hi Hoda,
>
> There are no signatures created/remaining in the signed zone with the
> retired key and it's completely redundant it's kept in the zonefile for so
> long.
>
> Unfortunately the proposed fix does not work. It affects the active key,
> but not the retired key which I want to remove from the DNSKEY RRset.
>
> #### with original ZSK Lifetime value of 4 months
> # ods-ksmutil key list -z example.com -v
> Keys:
> Zone: Keytype: State: Date of next
> transition (to): Size: Algorithm: CKA_ID:
> Repository: Keytag:
> example.com ZSK retire 2017-08-23
> 13:50:48 (dead) 2048 8 6b5c0df9591dac52e2fdabbc7cf89b89
> Keyper 25365
> example.com KSK active 2018-07-23
> 11:08:58 (retire) 2048 8 7e664b28619e580963c9fb6e0ee98a96
> Keyper 58744
> example.com ZSK active 2017-11-24
> 13:48:48 (retire) 2048 8 096ace586ef8102d694cac0f58642460
> Keyper 19239
>
> ### lifetime decreased to 2 months
> Keys:
> Zone: Keytype: State: Date of next
> transition (to): Size: Algorithm: CKA_ID:
> Repository: Keytag:
> example.com ZSK retire 2017-08-23
> 13:50:48 (dead) 2048 8 6b5c0df9591dac52e2fdabbc7cf89b89
> Keyper 25365
> example.com KSK active 2018-07-23
> 11:08:58 (retire) 2048 8 7e664b28619e580963c9fb6e0ee98a96
> Keyper 58744
> example.com ZSK active 2017-09-23
> 13:48:48 (retire) 2048 8 096ace586ef8102d694cac0f58642460
> Keyper 19239
>
> ### lifetime decreased to 1 month
> Keys:
> Zone: Keytype: State: Date of next
> transition (to): Size: Algorithm: CKA_ID:
> Repository: Keytag:
> example.com ZSK retire 2017-08-23
> 13:50:48 (dead) 2048 8 6b5c0df9591dac52e2fdabbc7cf89b89
> Keyper 25365
> example.com KSK active 2018-07-23
> 11:08:58 (retire) 2048 8 7e664b28619e580963c9fb6e0ee98a96
> Keyper 58744
> example.com ZSK active 2017-08-23
> 13:48:48 (retire) 2048 8 096ace586ef8102d694cac0f58642460
> Keyper 19239
>
> ### lifetime decreased to 10 days
> Keys:
> Zone: Keytype: State: Date of next
> transition (to): Size: Algorithm: CKA_ID:
> Repository: Keytag:
> example.com ZSK retire 2017-08-23
> 13:50:48 (dead) 2048 8 6b5c0df9591dac52e2fdabbc7cf89b89
> Keyper 25365
> example.com KSK active 2018-07-23
> 11:08:58 (retire) 2048 8 7e664b28619e580963c9fb6e0ee98a96
> Keyper 58744
> example.com ZSK active 2017-08-02
> 13:48:48 (retire) 2048 8 096ace586ef8102d694cac0f58642460
> Keyper 19239
>
> Emil
>
> On Mon, Jul 24, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Hoda Rohani <hoda at nlnetlabs.nl> wrote:
>
>> Hello Email,
>>
>>
>> On 23-07-17 15:24, Emil Natan wrote:
>>> I tried to decrease various values set in the kasp.xml file, most notably
>>> validity default and denial, publish and retire safety, propagation delay
>>> for the zone and the parent zone and TTLs. While that affected the key
>>> state is some cases, it did not affect the ZSK in retire state which I
>> want
>>> to remove from the zone.
>>>
>>
>> I think reducing the Life time value of ZSK would help you. You should run
>> 'ods-ksmutil policy import' after decreasing
>> the Life time to see the result.
>> After the old ZSK is completely removed you can modify the ZSK Lifetime
>> again to have the main value.
>>
>>
>>> I also tried to force deletion of that key with ods-ksmutil key delete
>> but
>>> the action was rejected by the enforcerd since it considers the key to be
>>> in use.
>>>
>>
>> Actually it seems that this key is still being used for signatures and
>> cannot be deleted.
>>
>>> I believe it's possible to manually change the value of next transition
>> for
>>> that key in the database, but that I really consider last resort.
>>>
>>
>> Please let us know if you still have the problem.
>>
>>> Emil
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hoda Rohani
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 5:02 PM, Emil Natan <shlyoko at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello,
>>>>
>>>> opendnssec version 1.4.13, kasp.xml attached.
>>>>
>>>> We have all keys (KSK and ZSK) for the next 5 years pregenerated on the
>>>> HSM.
>>>>
>>>> <ManualRollover/> is set for the KSK.
>>>>
>>>> Yet yesterday, on the day the KSK rollover was scheduled for, it just
>>>> happened.
>>>>
>>>> Jul 20 03:47:15 signer001 ods-enforcerd: Zone example.com found.
>>>> Jul 20 03:47:15 signer001 ods-enforcerd: Policy for example.com set to
>> 1.
>>>> Jul 20 03:47:15 signer001 ods-enforcerd: Policy 1 found in DB.
>>>> Jul 20 03:47:15 signer001 ods-enforcerd: Config will be output to
>>>> /ods-data/var/opendnssec/signconf/example.com.xml.
>>>> Jul 20 03:47:15 signer001 ods-enforcerd: KSK key allocation for zone
>>>> example.com: 1 key(s) allocated
>>>>
>>>> The new KSK was introduced into the zone and DNSKEY signed with both new
>>>> and old KSK. What makes it even more annoying is that the ZSK was
>> rolled at
>>>> the same time (as expected), so now we ended having pretty big DNSKEY +
>>>> RRSIG response.
>>>>
>>>> One of the checks on the signed zonefiles stopped it from being
>> published
>>>> and now we have to decide either to publish the zonefile that way or
>> force
>>>> the ZSK rollover to finish faster than it should if we wait for it to
>>>> happen automatically and then publish the zonefile. Because of the
>>>> signature validity set to 31 days, it's scheduled to happen on
>> 2017-08-20.
>>>> The DNSKEY RRset has a TTL of one hour and we publish the zone every day
>>>> and it spreads instantly, so it's already safe to do so. I see the
>>>> ods-ksmutil provides option to retire KSK (ksk-retire), but I do not see
>>>> such option for ZSK. Any ideas if and how it can be done?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Emil
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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